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Exactly how a character can move between concubine and slave status after the first month's introductory period
- An event or storyline will be introduced to bring concubines into the game
These two tied together. Just a note i'd make would be that the grace period is extended in the event that OOC consent is posted within the month, but ISA workers are unavailable until afterward. (Though a limit on the extension should also be imposed).- Following the introduction of concubines, existing slaves who wish to switch to concubine will have a one month grace period when they can apply for an immediate (subject to ISA staff availability) change. No extra waiting times or fees but no refunds either.
- Both owner and slave must post OOC consent to the switch.
- Following that one month grace period there will be set requirements to switch between concubine and slave
defining 'new concubines' as 'any free person becoming a concubine, as well as any slave initiating becoming a concubine beyond the initial grace period'.- New concubines will have to follow the full registration process from day one
- An event or storyline will be introduced to bring concubines into the game
IC'ly... hmm. There is a slight differentiation here in that a slave need not be present for the ISA to formalize the enslavement (at least, thats what i recall of ISA procedure. Is this still the case?)... I however think that as a concubine retains their free person state, that they SHOULD be required to be present. (In fact, I would argue that the 'owner's presence is the unneeded one in this state change).
Are we thinking... something beyond the standard slave registration procedure?
defining 'new concubines' as 'any free person becoming a concubine, as well as any slave initiating becoming a concubine beyond the initial grace period'.
Additionally are we applying the 'entering the game with a slave' mechanic to concubines as well? It would seem the appropriate thing to do.
Even tho a Concubine is a free person, For the change to happen the owner should have to be there since its a slave saying...Hey my master said i could. No I believe a owner must be there in order for the change to take place, Simply because they are still a slave until the time the owners changes them to concubine. The ISA would not likely take a slaves word for such even tho papers are filed.
No, I wouldnt think so.
I agree with this fully.
I would think that would be the right thing to do as well.
Would have to start with an Imperial Decree, being that it's an administrative change... but associated events would be a good idea - an open ISA event to allow the transition...
Again, just my thoughts towards the concept of Concubine. I see it as Sultans in the desert or even some Roman style of noble houses. Just yell if I'm seeing completely wrong.
Thria wrote:So your argument is based on "They already have them".... They're already slaves too, should they stay slaves?
You're inventing something -new-... USE something -new-...
Is it really that hard for the ISA/SS to arrange replacing the enchanted collar with an enchanted <blank>, for X amount of time until the new system is balanced out? (That, by the way, is a rhetorical question. No, it's not.)
Thria wrote:I didnt say ban them from wearing them. Please quote any part of any post i made where i said they couldnt wear them. I said I dont believe them to be a valid official marking. I said I dont believe a free person should want to make themselves look like a slave (Note: Concubines are still free people, and fall under this category).
Thria wrote:Anyway. Events.... an internal one.... mmh... okay, but as you yourself have pointed out numerous times, SB, it's an Imperial Dictatorship. And StormBringer [the CHARACTER] hasn't (at least, to my recollection) really shown much inclination to listen to the people. So it... would really take an internal event on a level of activity that hasn't been seen before in this game (again, to my recollection) to warrant the Imperial Throne paying attention to it...at least, thats my opinion of the logic of the situation. We've never really seen eye-to-eye on logic before.
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