Letter to Ehlanna [ in character, written ]

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Letter to Ehlanna [ in character, written ]

Postby mozenwrathe on Thu Jul 10, 2014 12:26 am

To Miss Ehlanna,

As up until recently, you were in the books as being one of the co-owners of the Might Makes Right, I am addressing this letter to you. Have I tried to send missive to you in order to speak with you personally, but such was in vain. Your schedule takes you far and wide through Nanthalion Province, and as such finding a moment when you are available is... difficult, at best.

Have I already reported this incident to Miss Miyuka - that is Lady Valentine of the Imperial Guard. I thought it most appropriate to inform you as well due to the still lingering absence of my beloved manager, Miss AltaNova.

The incident concerns a well known individual to the Nanthalion Province, one mage named Alren. As have I learned, he is also in a position of note within the Tower of Unigo, which makes his actions more aggravating to one such as I. However, I digress. Approxiametely two week-ends previous from date of this letter, did I arrive very late to the Might Makes Right. When I came in, I found a verbal altercation already in place, between Alren himself and Meadow, concubine of Sorgram. The man's words were, at best, condescending and at worst threatening. Typical of the lands, yes, but not typical where he was standing. He was, in fact, in the back rooms attempting to learn how to work with mithril. Taken right from the crates and using the forge as if it was his own.

Did I confront him about this, but was it to no true avail. He insisted that he was just "learning something" and that I, as a member of the Might Makes Right, was effectively denying him knowledge. Some of his exact phrasing was the following during the exchange:

"I havn't removed it from the premis.. and it's actually working the product.. thus.. adding value.. it'd be like trying to get someone in trouble for comming in and cleaning your home.. also.. the shop is opened .. your here.. and medow is here.. it's a dangerous precedent to try and get customers turned away or arrested because you don't personally like them pry.. gee.. I thought you'd be an honerable man and try and teach others as you said you would.. but I'm not the only person that's held up trying to learn how to smith this stuff.. not the only person that you're hoarding that knowlege from so here I am.. it's not your shop it's the empire and you're trying to make yourself a lordling by maintaining full controll of this little sliver aren't you.. Altanova is mostly gone.. and so is Stormwind these days.. I'm happy to learn at home if you can guarentee me the right to build my own forge.. can you do that?"

First of all, he had no right nor privilege to come into the store and touch anything within the back room. That is only for those who work within the Might Makes Right.

Secondly, I made no such claim that I am the one to teach all and sundry how to work mithril. I had to search high and wide to find those who ended up mentoring me in the metal. It was not either Stormwind or Miss AltaNova who bestowed the information of either mithril or jewelry crafting upon this darkened brow of mine. As well, I am not hoarding the information at all, for do I have apprentices whom I am showing the skill to, and fellow workers whom I am watching over their development of skill.

Third, the title of 'lordling' I found vile and vigorously insulting. There are none of my people from my village who had ever been given such a name. Was there none needed. As well, as the assistant manager of the Might Makes Right, am I responsible for everything that is bought, sold, and made within that store. 'Lordlings' only need sit on their behinds and watch the money be shoveled in for them. I work for what I have earned within that building.

Finally, whom is he to ask me to ensure something about a forge at home? Can't he just go to the office of real estate and purchase the basic building for one like I did? From there, I purchased everything necessary to do extra work for the Might Makes Right at home, as well as any custom requests we receive or are sent to us from The Works or The General Store - in case such ever happens.

I did attempt to douse the flames within the forge itself, but the man used his unfortunately impressive magics to stop me. Namely, he struck the bucket from my hands before the throw was complete. The force of the magic was enough to have the bucket - heavy enough without water within it- cast across the entirety of the back room. Privately was I ashamed, knowing that mere finger waggling was able to stop me from my duties, and as such I know that blindly trying to strike him down with blade would have been a less than useless endeavour.

More of his words during this all:

"First off Pry.. I don't really care what you like and don't.. it doesn't matter if someone is working at a shop, they can still get beat up and rapped for insutling a customer.. and let me assure you your asisstaint certainally did that. What you're talking about is the right to refuse entry to the shop and to use the IG as your personal guard.. lordling.. go ahead and write a letter.. I'll pay the empire for what they deem is needed to make amends for any supplys. though I doubt they'll want much of anything at all. In either case.. all of this can simply be averted by hiring me and teaching me.. but your ego isn't going to allow for that now is it 'lordling' pry?" he said with a mock bow. "As it is.. I assure yout that I'll have a talk with Meadow's owner and take up the way she treated me with him.. he owes me.. and if he doesn't take care of matters with me and settle it, then I'll take the matter to him personaly. I understand that you wish to controll things in 'your' shop.. but you're hampering theh progress of knowlege, and .. no.. the REB doesn't sell forges to everyone.. so here.. I will stay untill I'm finished with it. I expect you to either hireme and work with me, or get the hell out of my way,"

He honestly believes that he will be hired by the Might Makes Right by the virtue of him being him. He truly believes I will teach him whatever he insists because he has magical might. Oh yes, and apparently the real estate board does not sell forges to everyone. Of the three things, he was partially right in the third respect: I bought a stone barn large enough to house a few horses and converted it into a forge. It took a bit of discussion with the people that were there at the time, but eventually I managed to make it happen. Perhaps because it was part and parcel of my work for the Might Makes Right. Could I personally care less about what he has upon his property, but someone that rumoured to have a temple somewhere on his lands to some deity nobody knew of for at least a decade can't get something together to heat metal and make his own horseshoes? Something smells false there.

If you wish for my swatted memory to give you an exact byplay of everything that happened during that night, I will be more than happy to... after I get back from being dead. For you see, there was one last set of kind words that my darling guest had for me even as we locked up the shoppe with him still inside:

"Nope.. not leaving.. And at this point.. I'll just rely on the books in unigo.. learning the old ways. You're.. hrmm.. not really all that reasonable of a man really.. nor do you wish to settle things just as us civialy and just hire me. Thank the gods.. you're .. boring.. OH.. Pry.. If you don't hire me the next time I see you.. I'm going to kill you. Ta ta"

Let him try to learn from books alone. If one could do that, I would have entered the building with the knowledge of mithril underneath my fingertips. He will not be hired by me. He will not be taught by me. If he learns from anyone else in the Might Makes Right, then he does. So if he kills me, so be it. I should have enough 'lordling' money to cover the expense of being risen from the dead.

Thought you might be interested, is all. Oh yes, and the bell for the Imperial Guard was rung throughout this incident.

They didn't show.

And yes, was this all brought up with Lady Valentine, but am I certain am I a dead man. This suits me just fine, for the final insult will be when he slays me and he still doesn't get what he wants. Not from me, at least.

[ at this point, the letter would be signed and dated appropriately. ]

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OOC notes:

No flaming. No cursing. No flinging daggers.
This entire incident was in game, in character.
Everything that is posted here is ALSO in game, in character.
The letter would only find its way to Ehlanna. Out of character wise, she asked for me to post it here. Originally this was supposed to be done in character, in game, in person. However schedules prevent that from happening.

And to address some of the out of character issues that can be gleaned from this, people can talk to me in person if/ when I am in channel. The issue with the private forges is something mentioned elsewhere on the forums. Namely, private forges that people had wanted to make their own items with without buying them at the various stores. That issue is addressed already in another thread. The main reason Prydain has a forge is to bring work home and then bring it back completed. Nothing that cuts out the Might Makes Right or other locales that make metal work. Anything and everything Prydain's worked on has been for the store and been purchased through regular channels. One other thing is the "restricted skills," meaning ones you have to have a teacher for. A good OOC idea would be to have a list of characters that could teach some of these restricted skills. I know that is mainly what the Work and Workers Thread - viewforum.php?f=59 , and the Mentors Thread - viewforum.php?f=61 , are meant for. Meaning the solution to that issue would be more of the players themselves posting what they are able to tutor.
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Re: Letter to Ehlanna [ in character, written ]

Postby L`aquera on Thu Jul 10, 2014 3:15 am

:shock:

I'm.. at a complete loss here. On an OOC level, would Alren do that IC? I'm sure he would, the egomaniac that he is. No Shade, he is IN FACT an egotistical IC person. But.. I see a number of rules broken here that should not have occurred. Namely, while you as a player can go into any shop, you as the player cannot be going behind the counter making your own shit. Thats pretty equivalent as to going on someones 'private' property. Without said permission, there comes the issue of muddling with property of the Empire, which is not yours, its.. shockingly, the empires. I'm not... happy... with this. However, if Ehl wishes to handle this IC? Fine. However, I don't want to see a trend in this. Ever.

Kapish?

Direct all inquiries and sarcastic rejoinders to me. I however, do not promise to be all that polite :D
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Re: Letter to Ehlanna [ in character, written ]

Postby Almondus on Thu Jul 10, 2014 11:56 am

OOCly i'm rather confused too?

I'm under the understanding that the shops exist to create rp in a public setting.

How is rping in them with shop workers that have their tags in for opening the shop on the same level as rp in private?

Also I am well aware that mithril smiting is a special skill that has to be taught or has to have a quest to go along with it. I've talked with pry about learning it from him and our schedules just couldn't line up for that or to get Alren hired at the MMR. Upon my return Pry seemed to still be absent on my times and unavailable so I just rped what Alren would do.. walk into the shop and stir up a bit of rp by just trying to learn it on his own. If I broke a rule by doing that, I'm certainly sorry for it. But will say that it spun off a lot of fun RP by taking the risk of playing the bad guy.

Feel free to pm me on this. I do think of myself as a conscientious player that builds the community, helps others learn the rules and actively drives fun rp! (yes, not quite all of it involves cat girls).


Please do note that I didn't actually put any skills for learning mithril on my character sheet though after the ic altercation with pry Meadow snuck back and taught alren what she knew icly, and that Alren did NOT 'magic' himself a brand new set of mithil armor or by any other means benefit from access to the forge. OCly I did what I thought the purpose of the shop was; I used it as a rp device to create storyline for myself and other players in the game.

Also, myself and others have been told that you can get a private forge to learn on for home use.. so though I understand that pry has found a system to have one at his home, I was trying to stick to what my understanding of the game rules were and play out the ic effects of there being a limited places to find forges.

If the OPs with me to drop the story line, then I will of course.
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Re: Letter to Ehlanna [ in character, written ]

Postby Ehlanna on Thu Jul 10, 2014 5:06 pm

(Initial, OOC, response):
Whilst I am sure that the RP involved was all fine and dandy and done IC with nary an OOC/IC cross-over, etc., there are aspects which have been alluded to that ... well, 'get my goat' I suppose you could say.
Going behind the counter is for shop staff. Punters are not allowed. ICly people can, of course, push past and be a bully, etc., etc., so long as they realise there will be IC consequences. They can threaten violence (physical, mental, sexual, etc.,) to shop staff and, again, will need to be aware that there could well be IC consequences to that.
Learning 'mithril' used to be done via a written quest submitted that detailed what was done (basically going to find and persuade an NPC - usually a goblin smith - to teach the character, and going through the whole process from the actual mining, through refining to working with the end product). That has been relaxed to allow an existing Mithril Master player character to teach the skill. The 'recipient' still needs to be a Master in at least one Smithying skill whichever method they adopt to learn.

Whilst there is a happy degree of 'rough 'n' tumble' in TLI it can be very easy to over-step as it is hard to gauge physical reactions through a text medium. Someone saying, 'you shall not pass' and standing in the way cannot just be circumvented with a 'twiddle of English' (I am NOT suggesting that this was done here!) - yes this is a fantasy, but a token nod to both reality and to game-play has to be given at times.
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Re: Letter to Ehlanna [ in character, written ]

Postby Ehlanna on Sun Jul 13, 2014 8:44 pm

And, an IC response (to be 'backed up' later, with an IC chat with Prydain):

Prydain,

I am but a care-taker when it comes to the Might Makes Right emporium, first help out and then holding in trust for Raven, the one who first owned the shops. Since those early days and now, even when taken under the wing of the Empire I remain but a simple care-taker. But that matters not, for what you have said is of concern, if not for the simple fact that I do not like the idea of 'my' staff wherever they be being bullied and threatened into doing things they should not.

Where the Might Makes Right actually mine then I strongly suspect that the one who did this, when I had all the facts to hand would be very shortly heading south north with a fixation upon dancing naked in front of Fugly's less polite siblings. But the shop is not mine, it is of the Empire and as much as I am not one who holds the politicking, posturing and formalities that so burden the workings of the Empire I feel I can only pass the judgement of the actions you describe over to the Imperial Guard for their deliberation. I shall be having a little chat with Miyuka to explain just how I feel over this and help guide her to a proper and compete resolution of this affair.

For now, what I will do is to tell you, and request you pass on to all other employees of the Might Makes Right that Alren is, for now and until this episode is resolved placed on the 'not wanted in here' list: he is not to be served and not to be permitted to step foot within the shop.

Yours,

Ehlanna

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Re: Letter to Ehlanna [ in character, written ]

Postby StormWind on Mon Jul 28, 2014 5:34 am

OOC:

This thread was pointed out to me when a close friend noted that my character was mentioned. Yes... i have been scarce, working on a new writing project most of this month. HOWEVER.... as many people can atest... if you leave an mb pm for me, i can... and will respond, asap. and if that should not be enough for you, you can always email me directly... (( st0rm.arshes@gmail.com )) i have given this address to many people for the purposes of rp contact.... its the only thing that account is -ever- used for. i know this scene is none of my concern, but i do hope that in future, it will eliminate the use of the "i can never find him" line of reasoning i have seen here.

p.s: dear Ops/Moderators. if this post is in the wrong place, please feel free to move it to wherever, of file it away in the industrial bin, whichever. cheers.
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