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That Concubines have the OOC freedom to take whatever employment position they would like and are qualified for. But, with the understanding that certain higher positions come with the expectation of loyalty to that position and represented authority, as in a Commander of the Imperial Guard who happens to be a Concubine would understand that she has an expectation of loyalty to the Empire and Guard, and not just her owner.
Concerning the one month period during which the switch to concubine can be made without penalty, will that time include or be extended to after the new slave public behavior rules are decided? gwyn believes, from talking to O/others, that the new slave rules will have a great part in players' decisions as to whether to make that switch for many of their characters. it will cause less chaos and shuffling around if all the information is presented before that time period expires, and likely an easier transition with fewer frustrated players.
I move for a 50mhl registration and 5mhl upkeep for 'tax' purposes. They are still considered property to a degree and there is Imperial Documentation held and upkept ICly about such. Half price and half upkeep in comparison to slave.
I would not use a hyphen as suggested due to it being for employees declaring their work. I personally, even though it has meaning in other irc mediums... use the [] bracket to determine concubines for OOC flagging purposes.
I see no reason for this to be muddy. If a person is a slave and wants to be changed to a concubine OR vice versa, then it needs not be an issue. As long as the Owner and slave in questions are both present, a mere subbing of 50mhl can be done for the changing of from types of property and a quick change over in database. A flat 50mhl fee for 'paperwork processing fees'. Any transference of title types must have both ICly at the same time to change it.
A visitation to the southern exploration could be utilized for this purpose.
As for collar wearing, I think theres a fair few non slaves walking around with collars/chokers etc, so why not concubines? I mean they can be branded like cattle but not wear a collar?
I can see this as more of a IC thing between the slave and the owner. Once the owner decided they wish to change then they would need to post their OOC consent and so would the slave char. They would wait one week then come in pay the fee and the slave collar would be removed and paper work filled out making them a Concubine. This of course would go into effect after the first month. However I think there should be a limit of one switch per slave char per owner. Once switched it should be something they can not switch again with the same owner. If there isnt a limit set, then I can see some playing musical collars.
will concubines be able to own property, ie: their own land, houses, or beasts?
will concubine's money be his or her own, or will it pass along to her owner, as with a slave?
We are an equal opportunity Real Estate Brokerage:
* We sell to anyone with the mehrials!
* You're a free person; we don't care!
* You're a slave; we don't care!
* You're a nice person; we don't care!
* You're a nasty bastard; we don't care!
* You don't make your mortgage payment; We Care!!!
This isn't a major thing for me but I would want some way in which a character IC can see that another character is either slave, concubine or free without having to consult OOC knowledge or ask every time. Apart from the convenience to players there is an imperial aspect where, if no such distinction exists, a slave could claim to be a concubine to gain extra freedom to attack a free person for example. Whilst that can make for roleplay opportunities, it isn't something that is likely to be overlooked by the empire so there would be some law governing collar styles. If there is agreement here on specific features of a collar that make such an identification then I'm happy enough.
I'm easy either way. I can finalise concubine and then get the slave review finished before concubine comes into play. Or there can be a new or extended grace period for slaves to decide if they like the new setup. I just wouldn't want to see slave review hurried through because it is still a fundamental of the game and needs careful planning.
Sakkara wrote:Concubines wear leather collars
Slaves wear metal collars.
Hows that?
Tawny wrote:Tho jumping from slave to concubine just to avoid new rules isnt the answer either. A concubine isnt a freer slave. It is a new class altogether. That is one thing that does worry me abit. That some will simply switch so they are freer under the rules of concubine and the owner has to pay less in fee's and registeration. Maybe there needs to be some way for the IG and ISA to insure that a concubine is infact a concubine and not just a slave and owner trying to dodge fees and rules. Just a thought that has come to mind.
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